MM : The verse was added
later....it just fit the song so we put it in.
JQ : Why did the group actually
break up into splinter groups ?
MM : Flash wanted to go to court
for royalties.....I didnt want to...I felt that it would be long
& drawn out ; and im a recording artist , not a lawyer - I
said lets make records . Originally everyone went with Flash
, then after White Lines came out Scorp & Cowboy came back
JQ : Did you know the new
members of Flashes clique ; and what did you think of them ?
MM : I had seen them before ,
but I didn't personally know them...they were ok... kinda corny I
JQ : What was your favorite
Furious 5 song on the Sugarhill label ?
MM : Freedom
JQ : I noticed that you and
Scorp seem closer than any other group members...is that so ?
MM : Yeah...it just came from
our days B Boyin together...we just vibed .
JQ : I always felt that Run Dmc
was able to take off based on the fact that Furious 5 was in a
drought ; and because they rapped over stripped down beats ; like
what you did in the parks and clubs . Do you agree ?
MM : Yes...while we were caught
up in all that legal stuff a lot of groups moved in . It was the
right time for them...they came right in time for Mtv and that
crowd....we missed all that .Sugarhill wasn't into doing videos .
They were a company from the 60s , and they were still operating
like Motown....They were still using the old Linn drum and the
Sugarhill band while other labels had Scratching and drum machines
in their songs . After our split neither faction was the same .
Even after we got back together it wasn't the same.
JQ : Ive heard people say that
you lost street credibility after White Lines - do you agree ?
MM : No.....we werent really
after street credibility at that point . We were stars...we were
doing shows all over .....Peppermint lounge...everywhere. Billy
Ocean and everybody was comin to see us play .
One thing that Sugarhill did right was that we had a white
publicist - we were in all the magazines in the Uk , right up
there with the Ramones the Clash & Mick Jagger ....we werent
treated any less than them. Whitelines was a dance record...put
any of our records on in the clubs and Whitelines gets the most
response . All we cared about was love from the Bronx...and as far
as the Bronx was concerned they were like " look at them
JQ : How did the Zulu Kings come
MM : That was Afrika Islams
thing...just a crew he put together...It was me , Bronx Style Bob
, Ice T & Caz .
JQ : You have done work with
Bill Laswell , Material & the Last Poets....how did that come
MM : I don't remember how I met
Bill , but he was always into real eccentric stuff so we started
working , and it was good to work with the Last Poets ...those
cats were doing an early version of rap . I have done stuff with
Bootsy & Billy Bass Nelson from Funkadelic .
JQ : How did the opportunity to
do Beat Street come about ?
MM : Harry Belafonte came to
us...he was looking for rappers and we were hot at the time .
You have worked with Chaka Khan , Rebbie Jackson & Quincy
Jones - how did you hook up with them ?
MM : Reggie Griffin was a
producer with Sugarhill Records and he produced " I Feel For
You ". He needed an Emcee for it and he came to me . I didnt
meet Chaka until the Grammys - Thats where I met Quincy
Jones . He was always experimenting with some eccentric stuff
too...I did" Back On The Block " and " Qs Juke
Joint " with him . I also wrote a chapter in his book.
JQ : How did the Furious 5
reunite for " On The Strength " ?
MM : Well Flash was already on
Elektra ; and the label felt that his records werent doing well .
They suggested that we reunite . The record just didnt take off .